Comments on: An Introduction to Special Strength http://www.mbingisser.com/2009/08/an-introduction-to-special-strength/ Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:46:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Paradoxical Nature of the Hammer Throw « G. Martin Bingisser http://www.mbingisser.com/2009/08/an-introduction-to-special-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-6532 The Paradoxical Nature of the Hammer Throw « G. Martin Bingisser Sat, 07 Jan 2012 20:49:03 +0000 http://www.evergreenathletic.org/mbingisser/?p=591#comment-6532 [...] it doesn’t always work that way. This time the cause of the apparent paradox is the intense special-strength oriented training program I began in November. I would complain about the crazy amount of volume, [...] [...] it doesn’t always work that way. This time the cause of the apparent paradox is the intense special-strength oriented training program I began in November. I would complain about the crazy amount of volume, [...]

]]> By: Ask Martin Vol. 9: Kettlebells « G. Martin Bingisser http://www.mbingisser.com/2009/08/an-introduction-to-special-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-4589 Ask Martin Vol. 9: Kettlebells « G. Martin Bingisser Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:21:46 +0000 http://www.evergreenathletic.org/mbingisser/?p=591#comment-4589 [...] Olympic lifts, etc.). To read a little more about why I think special strength is so important, read this post from 2009 or this article about Bondarchuk’s training [...] [...] Olympic lifts, etc.). To read a little more about why I think special strength is so important, read this post from 2009 or this article about Bondarchuk’s training [...]

]]> By: Leo http://www.mbingisser.com/2009/08/an-introduction-to-special-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-626 Leo Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:53:11 +0000 http://www.evergreenathletic.org/mbingisser/?p=591#comment-626 Brilliant stuff, keep it coming! Brilliant stuff, keep it coming!

]]> By: Zach Hazen http://www.mbingisser.com/2009/08/an-introduction-to-special-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-453 Zach Hazen Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:44:33 +0000 http://www.evergreenathletic.org/mbingisser/?p=591#comment-453 Your compiled knowledge of Bondarchuk and elite throwers is a great benefit to the hammer community, especially those like myself who don't have access to many in-person, post collegiate resources. I think it is important to stress a holistic approach, especially when the readers are presented with a video that they may be tempted to view as a "secret", easy, one size fits all solution to throwing far. Your compiled knowledge of Bondarchuk and elite throwers is a great benefit to the hammer community, especially those like myself who don’t have access to many in-person, post collegiate resources. I think it is important to stress a holistic approach, especially when the readers are presented with a video that they may be tempted to view as a “secret”, easy, one size fits all solution to throwing far.

]]> By: mohamad saatara http://www.mbingisser.com/2009/08/an-introduction-to-special-strength/comment-page-1/#comment-452 mohamad saatara Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:19:07 +0000 http://www.evergreenathletic.org/mbingisser/?p=591#comment-452 Martin, Once again an excellent article and observations. I would like to share my personal experience as a coach using the methods stated to coach my athletes over my career. I have been able to get pretty good results from my throwers using these methods. I would also like to metion that the people I coach are not "super heros" just kids who love to throw and students of their events. In the initial stages of training development of absolute strength and power levels are helpful but as you stated the athlete shortly reaches a point of diminishing returns and the training has to evolve and focus changes to the development of special power. Throughout this time technical execution and "time on the task" is focused on. Here is a case study of a shot putter whom is on this type of training and I have coached him for the last 4 years and he has one more year with me: year: avg: pr: pr 18#: squat: push press: 2006 15.10m 15.90m 14.80m 200kg 140kg 2007 16.30m 16.96m 15.56m 204kg 150kg 2008 17.40m 18.23m 16.40m 227kg 160kg 2009 18.00m 18.59m 17.10m 227kg 165kg This athete was a 55 foot high school shot putter. I focus mainly on developing special power characteristics and we throw different weights. As you can see this thrower is not nearly as strong as some of the other guys who throw similar distances but he gets the most out of the throw and is always in good condition to throw. I strongly believe that to get the best results from the thrower we have to put our focus on throwing and use other training methods to enhance what is going on in the circle not the other way around. Great success to everyone Mohamad Saatara NAU Track and Field Martin,

Once again an excellent article and observations. I would like to share my personal experience as a coach using the methods stated to coach my athletes over my career. I have been able to get pretty good results from my throwers using these methods. I would also like to metion that the people I coach are not “super heros” just kids who love to throw and students of their events.
In the initial stages of training development of absolute strength and power levels are helpful but as you stated the athlete shortly reaches a point of diminishing returns and the training has to evolve and focus changes to the development of special power. Throughout this time technical execution and “time on the task” is focused on. Here is a case study of a shot putter whom is on this type of training and I have coached him for the last 4 years and he has one more year with me:
year: avg: pr: pr 18#: squat: push press:
2006 15.10m 15.90m 14.80m 200kg 140kg
2007 16.30m 16.96m 15.56m 204kg 150kg
2008 17.40m 18.23m 16.40m 227kg 160kg
2009 18.00m 18.59m 17.10m 227kg 165kg

This athete was a 55 foot high school shot putter. I focus mainly on developing special power characteristics and we throw different weights. As you can see this thrower is not nearly as strong as some of the other guys who throw similar distances but he gets the most out of the throw and is always in good condition to throw. I strongly believe that to get the best results from the thrower we have to put our focus on throwing and use other training methods to enhance what is going on in the circle not the other way around.

Great success to everyone

Mohamad Saatara
NAU Track and Field

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